kennedy which made as odd as the little bit because we felt manuel get out of cuba. the experience in vietnam was really in out a body experience for me, as it was for many of the students in the city. we went to the war museum in hanoi. we went to the tunnels outside of coaching in city or what was saigon. the experience of going in the sawmills, recognizing what their fathers had to do, what i probably could have been doing at 19 years old, to crawl through those towels, even the titles that are made into a tourist attraction. so camino, the deer was taken away. cement, cemented. but only about six of the 15 students who live there could actually make it through the tunnels. it was too scary. it was too close. to claustrophobic for them. so i think that give them of its sense of what it was like for their fathers. before we got on that trip we read tim o'brien, the things they carried. he talks, and other things, but going into the tunnels, about imagination being the killer, that going into that darkness, not knowing what would be there, i think, again, things tha